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"new york times - -- have we read it is talking about conservative "new york times" columnist david brooks, wrote that the republican party is no longer a normal party. its members, he says, don't accept the logic of compromise. >> forgive me, i have to correct your copy again. he is a great calmness, but he's not conservative -- great columnist, but he's not conservative. he is moderate. >> moderate conservative. >> no, he is moderate, open to all views. what you are saying, if you hear eric cantor john boehner, we are ready for tax reform, which was done in the mid-1980's. you cut out the loopholes and you use the money to cut rates. you get the fairness. rich don't have advantages by having the lobbyists create loopholes and exploit them. you stimulate economic growth because the loopholes and in and of themselves is starting economically and the low rates encourage economic activity. that is what republicans have been asking for, not to eliminate a loophole here and there, which, in the end, but not absolutely nothing. >> the validity of the public debt of the united states will not be
"new york times - -- have we read it is talking about conservative "new york times" columnist david brooks, wrote that the republican party is no longer a normal party. its members, he says, don't accept the logic of compromise. >> forgive me, i have to correct your copy again. he is a great calmness, but he's not conservative -- great columnist, but he's not conservative. he is moderate. >> moderate conservative. >> no, he is moderate, open to all views. what...
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back to david brooks for a second. david brooks basically is saying that for republicans not to take a deal-- that you seem to believe in yourself-- if they don't do that, then they will be blamed for the crisis. >> rose: charlie, i think it's what... the thing that matters in that statement is what are the details of the deal? and we have not heard the details of the deal that seemo be satisfactory t most republicans yet. if, in fact, you want to set it up where you eliminate a large percentage of tax expenditures and tax credit-- let's say 50% or 60% of them-- and lower rates thereby getting an economic boom that would markedly increase revenues to the government and lower thdebt that's totally different. and with that a siificant 3.5% or 4.5 $trillion in expenditure cuts i think republicans would jump at that in a minute. the question i is can you do that in a timing where you've got them both locked in? that's where the lack of trust is not evident between the two parties and the shame of that is because of that la
back to david brooks for a second. david brooks basically is saying that for republicans not to take a deal-- that you seem to believe in yourself-- if they don't do that, then they will be blamed for the crisis. >> rose: charlie, i think it's what... the thing that matters in that statement is what are the details of the deal? and we have not heard the details of the deal that seemo be satisfactory t most republicans yet. if, in fact, you want to set it up where you eliminate a large...
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syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. it's good to see you both. >> few. >> woodruff: so we're just watching a tough situation in california. we've got another kind of a tough situation here in washington. mark, what about this ongoing stalemate over the debt limit? does it look like they're going to reach an agreement and not breech the deadline? what do you think? >> judy, anybody who-- at this point is really just shooting in the dark. i am hopeful that they will. i think that the more likely scenario is that the senate works first. i think senator-- republican leader mitch mcconnell came up with something that was devilishly shrewd with his proposal to basically yield responsibility for the budget process, appropriation process from the congress and putting all the responsibility on raising the debt on the president it politically puts the blame there, in his judgement. gets by the possibility of the government closing down and avoids as he put it damaging the republican brand with a showdown or shutdown. and damaging
syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. it's good to see you both. >> few. >> woodruff: so we're just watching a tough situation in california. we've got another kind of a tough situation here in washington. mark, what about this ongoing stalemate over the debt limit? does it look like they're going to reach an agreement and not breech the deadline? what do you think? >> judy, anybody who-- at this point is really just shooting...
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and rebecca brooks is also in the same position, a regular visitor to both those places. in a way that you wouldn't see a u.s. president inviting similar media figures here. >> suarez: saranow that the justice is -- -- dust is starting to settle and the announcement is made and sun day's profits are all going to chart, how do you conclude that news corp. made this decision to bury 168-year-old newspaper, a very profitable property, one of the best read newspapers in the english language over something like this? >> well, the people i have been talking to at news corp. have said that this was something that they knew was potentially in the cards for months. they were going to maybe take this action. i think it's somewhat cynical. because what it allows them to do is close the newspaper, try to draw a line under the scandal and have everyone move on. of course the executives who are really making the decisions about phone hacking have all left the news of the world at this point. so the people they are getting rid of are sort of lower level reporters and editors and they're
and rebecca brooks is also in the same position, a regular visitor to both those places. in a way that you wouldn't see a u.s. president inviting similar media figures here. >> suarez: saranow that the justice is -- -- dust is starting to settle and the announcement is made and sun day's profits are all going to chart, how do you conclude that news corp. made this decision to bury 168-year-old newspaper, a very profitable property, one of the best read newspapers in the english language...
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but i sort of hope so. >> thank you, david brooks. david david leone hard. >> thank you roger cohen, thank you tom friedman. david david brooks. anthony bour sdaefern is here. he workeds a chef for more than 25 years, his big break came wit miss memoir kitchen confidential t made waves with shocking stories about life in the professional kitchen. bourdain has since left the restaurant business to pursue a career as writer and television host. here is a look at his program, no reservations. >> so this is white meat. >> nice and rare, when are you eating fresh killed beautiful chicken with. >> it has to be pink. >> it's got to be pinked. >> yes. >> in new york that would tolly freak people out no matter how good the chicken is. >> this is what connects the liver and the intestine. >> interestingly. >> he is unusual in that they prefer to use an electric grill over traditional charcoal kbleefing the consistent heat makes better product. >> it's crunchy but not as crunchy as the gizzard but a lot more succulent. >> it's absolutely fantast
but i sort of hope so. >> thank you, david brooks. david david leone hard. >> thank you roger cohen, thank you tom friedman. david david brooks. anthony bour sdaefern is here. he workeds a chef for more than 25 years, his big break came wit miss memoir kitchen confidential t made waves with shocking stories about life in the professional kitchen. bourdain has since left the restaurant business to pursue a career as writer and television host. here is a look at his program, no...
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the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for him. >> i like being on a show where ad hominems cannot use. liberals are always thought about why the's conservatives. everybody today worships ronald reagan. i lived in the ronald reagan era. liberals called him an amiable dunce asset to -- and a threat to civilization. a sickly, on the question of the 14th amendment, the -- secondly, on the question of the 14th amendment, it would end up under the jurisdiction of john roberts. >> we've been talking about this stuff or 20 years, the need to fix entitlements. everybody says you have to do somethin nobody does anything, and here we are. >> think this is the most historic weekend of the o
the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for...
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. >> rose: also this evening a conversation with paul krugman and david brooks th columnists at the "new york times". this conversation took pla before the president's press conference and therefore was edited accordingly. >> whave no consensus in our political system. there is no center. we have no consensus about what all to be happening. so if you try to strike a lo-term deal you're basically stking a deal that nobody actually beeves and that isot going to be adhered to. i think we buy we buy se time. shouldn't be negotiating at all about the debt ceiling but we buy someime and give the voters another chance to weigh in. >> we really need to cut i think some of the rating agencies have said this, we need to cut $4 trillion to sort of stabilize debt levels and if we don't do that that's really bad news. and then the second thing i do think both parties may find it useful to have a framework. no, we're to the going to write a plan that is going to dictate the next ten years of politics but both parties may find it extremely useful to have a framework going forward and believe me none
. >> rose: also this evening a conversation with paul krugman and david brooks th columnists at the "new york times". this conversation took pla before the president's press conference and therefore was edited accordingly. >> whave no consensus in our political system. there is no center. we have no consensus about what all to be happening. so if you try to strike a lo-term deal you're basically stking a deal that nobody actually beeves and that isot going to be adhered...
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-- syndicated columnist mark shields, "new york times" columnist david brooks. mark, tell us what's going on? >> jim, what you've just seen is the rupture of the summit. this had been a summit deal, involving the speaker of house, a republican and the democratic president of the united states. nobody else had been really party to it other than eric cantor, the republic house leader. but the democratic leadership, the house and the senate were not party to it. nor were the republicans in the senate. so it came down, he said-- he said break up and the time is now short. i mean the grand deal appears to be in shamables. and now the urgency is to raise the debt ceiling and get it done. >> lehrer: what do you think happened? >> shambles, a complete meltdown, apparently. i've never seen a presidential press conference with the president so angry in public. and you know, i sort of think he's maybe mostly right on substance. he laid out apparently in the next few hours they are he going to be laying out the details of what the white house offer was. there were a lot of
-- syndicated columnist mark shields, "new york times" columnist david brooks. mark, tell us what's going on? >> jim, what you've just seen is the rupture of the summit. this had been a summit deal, involving the speaker of house, a republican and the democratic president of the united states. nobody else had been really party to it other than eric cantor, the republic house leader. but the democratic leadership, the house and the senate were not party to it. nor were the...
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but what i think david brooks underestimates is what it's going to take to pass this. not only through the house but also through the senate. it's going to require 60 votes in the senate. so it will take more than the president having a press conference or having a meeting. we need to come up with a package that can actually pass both branches of the congress between now and august 2. and i just frankly don't think tax increases particularly during a weak economic recovery, are likely to pass either the house or the senate. >> woodruff: we hear you, senator john cornyn, thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. >> ifill: next, taking desperate measures in cleveland to deal with a massive foreclosure problem newshour economics correspondent paul solman has the story, part of his ongoing reporting on the housing crisis and "making sense of financial news." >> reporter: in cleveland, ohio, someone's former home. since foreclosure, though, it's been stripped of anything you can sell, not even worth the price of the wood left behind. so down it goes-- an ever more common answer
but what i think david brooks underestimates is what it's going to take to pass this. not only through the house but also through the senate. it's going to require 60 votes in the senate. so it will take more than the president having a press conference or having a meeting. we need to come up with a package that can actually pass both branches of the congress between now and august 2. and i just frankly don't think tax increases particularly during a weak economic recovery, are likely to pass...
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party is starting to get some criticism here people are starting to claim and you mention the david brooks piece oh this is an abnormal party it's captive to these crazy tea partiers these out of control rubes that's not what's driving this desire to treat subsidies like tyson's is grover norquist it's wall street economists it's people in the republican party who are big business friendly and don't want to lose this program this is not a tea party thing in the i'm ok but does it still mean the if you meant you know we brought up the david brooks piece again is that still man the republican party isn't a normal party anymore when it's people like covering our requests and when it's wall street the dictates their every move. well you know i don't think they're dictate its every move i think that it's the company of a powerful constituency and over a period of decades now that wing of the republican party has managed one to do some things we should actually been very good not just good for the party but i think you know good for for republican voters and good for the country as a whole but y
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is not a tea party thing ok but business tell me that if you meant you know we brought up the david brooks piece again is that still me out there republican party is a normal party anymore when it's people like irving are question when it's all free that they can use their every move. well you know i'm going to think they're taking this every move i think it works the company of a powerful constituency and over a period of decades now that wing of the republican party is munition one to do some things we should actually been very good not just in the party but i think for republican voters good for the country as a whole but you know it comes to a point where you reach this turning point getting out prices begin to take a fresh look at the fundamental infrastructure of this country our whole economy still and the same old answers don't really court as well as that you see now i also want to go back to another point in a brooks made where he said that the republican party if they do allow us to deep has no moral decency because you know you say in good faith when you borrow money from someb
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because you yes he could well you know this is what david brooks of the new york times and republican. already has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest their practical governing alternative the members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise do matter how sweet the terms because on the right the members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars to lecture with already members of this movement have no sense of moral decency and members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name and congressman duncan hunter said this about ronald reagan he said well here it is. here. here. out a way i care republicans that even their savior ronald reagan couldn't get a life but i disagree with that ronald reagan inspired argument that he was a moderate i don't subscribe to was an amazing individual i mean that i've been times on what i'm talking about campaigning i'm talking about getting capturing or you know really get to know i'd be backed up to i mean he would lead the role of head of state brilliantly well yes but you kn
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but david brooks is absolutely right. what weave seen here in washington is kind of a sad note over the past couple of years. we've seen negotiators and compromisers leave. so many senators have left, they're no longer on capitol hill behind me. they were the ones who would be able to cut the deals. that's why i think you're seeing at this point that the deal is a little bit hard tore cut. having said that, it's not just the extremists, so to speak, on the republican side. it's the extremists on the democratic side. we've already seen fund-raising letters go out from these liberal groups saying that social security cannot be touched, that medicare cannot be touched. guess what? it has to be touched. so the question is, how can it be touched? extremism right now here in washington is, i hate to say this, is at an all-time high. >> it really is. jeanne, you know this more than anybody else. when you look at the numbers, these kinds of cuts have to be done very carefully so that you don't really change our living standard dr
but david brooks is absolutely right. what weave seen here in washington is kind of a sad note over the past couple of years. we've seen negotiators and compromisers leave. so many senators have left, they're no longer on capitol hill behind me. they were the ones who would be able to cut the deals. that's why i think you're seeing at this point that the deal is a little bit hard tore cut. having said that, it's not just the extremists, so to speak, on the republican side. it's the extremists...
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tea party starting to get sick criticism people are starting to tell you that you mention the david brooks oh this is an abnormal party after these crazy tea partiers these out of control groups up that's not what's driving these territories so it's just it's norquist it's all street economists it's people in the republican party repeat business friendly to don't want to lose this purpose this is not a tea party view ok but does it still mean the if you meant you know we brought up the david brooks piece again is that still now the republican party is a normal party anymore when it's people like over an article as and when it's wall street if they can if their every move. well you know i don't think they're dictating its every move i think that orcas and company have a powerful constituency and over a period of decades now that wing of the republican party has musician want to do some things we should actually been very good not just to the party but i think it's for republican voters you can do for the hundreds but you know it comes to point where you reach this turning point getting out
tea party starting to get sick criticism people are starting to tell you that you mention the david brooks oh this is an abnormal party after these crazy tea partiers these out of control groups up that's not what's driving these territories so it's just it's norquist it's all street economists it's people in the republican party repeat business friendly to don't want to lose this purpose this is not a tea party view ok but does it still mean the if you meant you know we brought up the david...
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katrina, here's david brooks saying -- have most of the me a media -- >> yes, though i think in the last weeks we've seen more attention paid for the fact you no longer have a republican party nixon would recognize. this is an extremist republican party willing to blow up the economy. a debt ceiling, by the way, republicans seven times voted for to lift under george w. bush, but i think the largest crisis, the media malpractice, howard, is the fact that i have the idea, the concept that america is bankrupt. it is not bankrupt. what is bankrupt is the inside the beltway consensus that the real crisis in this country is about deficits and debt. when you look at the front pages in the last days, the last few years, howard, what is it? it is a jobs crisis. so when you listen to bill daley and he said president obama came to washington to do something big, what we -- -- >> tony blakley, i'm not taking sides here. journalists could easily write that by saying we'll negotiate anything, except tax increases, republicans are blocking progress toward a deal. >> look, i'm in favor of objective jour
katrina, here's david brooks saying -- have most of the me a media -- >> yes, though i think in the last weeks we've seen more attention paid for the fact you no longer have a republican party nixon would recognize. this is an extremist republican party willing to blow up the economy. a debt ceiling, by the way, republicans seven times voted for to lift under george w. bush, but i think the largest crisis, the media malpractice, howard, is the fact that i have the idea, the concept that...
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then brooks describes the show horses. he says political celebrities, sarah palin and michele bachmann, produce tweets, not laws. they have created a climate in which purity is prized over practicality. finally, there are the permanent campaigners. according to brooks, for many legislators, the purpose of being in congress is not to pass laws. it's to create clear contrasts you can take into the next election campaign. it's not to take responsibility for the state of the country and make it better, it's to pass responsibility on to the other party and force them to take as many difficult votes as possible. joining me now is bruce bartlett, senior policy analyst in the reagan white house and a columnist now for the fiscal times. thanks for joining me tonight, bruce. >> happy to be here. >> bruce, it is a difficult time to be a thoughtful republican. you and i have chatted about this a bit. david brooks is not alone in his feelings about this, is he? >> no, he's not, but the number of people who are willing to speak out publ
then brooks describes the show horses. he says political celebrities, sarah palin and michele bachmann, produce tweets, not laws. they have created a climate in which purity is prized over practicality. finally, there are the permanent campaigners. according to brooks, for many legislators, the purpose of being in congress is not to pass laws. it's to create clear contrasts you can take into the next election campaign. it's not to take responsibility for the state of the country and make it...
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>> yeah, correct me if i'm wrong, but you're quoting david brooks. i can't think of anyone more poorly placed to accurately describe modern conservativism. the party has become so extreme and so far to the right that they won a majority in the house of representatives. you know, that speaks for itself. simplts the question is, can they maintain the majority? a lot of them are in trouble, according to the polls, and a lot of governors are in trouble. the fact they may won may end up being their worst night mares if the polls are right and we go to the next election cycle this way. >> well, i think i and every other person on the right will take the nightmare of being an incumbent majority. we'll figure out a way to handle that. >> jamal, you were communications dnc, can't the democrats use the fact that they've been so extreme, and all polls has shown that americans want to see certain things protected, want to see some of the wealthy americans pay their share, won't this gabfire on them in the long right? >> absolutely. >> and medicare, of all the re
>> yeah, correct me if i'm wrong, but you're quoting david brooks. i can't think of anyone more poorly placed to accurately describe modern conservativism. the party has become so extreme and so far to the right that they won a majority in the house of representatives. you know, that speaks for itself. simplts the question is, can they maintain the majority? a lot of them are in trouble, according to the polls, and a lot of governors are in trouble. the fact they may won may end up being...
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this is david brooks from "the new york times." the republican party has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical governing alternative. if you ask them to raise taxes an inch to cut government spending by a foot, they'll say no. to members of this, tax levels are everything. members have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. if you were offered for revenue increases of some kind, would you say no because you don't want revenue increases? >> i would love to do tax reform. i hate the fact we use it for social engineering. number four on the contract from america, which is a tea party manifesto of sorts, is fundamental tax reform. so we're all for that, but this is a spending problem. this is a -- >> you would accept a very good deal? >> why would you -- >> would you accept a deal? >> would you talk about revenue -- >> no, in other words, saying we won't accept revenue increase under any deal. >> i'm saying if they put real spending on the table then we
this is david brooks from "the new york times." the republican party has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical governing alternative. if you ask them to raise taxes an inch to cut government spending by a foot, they'll say no. to members of this, tax levels are everything. members have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. if you were offered for revenue increases of some kind, would you say no...
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. >> this week david brooks which i'm sure you're familiar with this article in "the new york times" saying quote, if responsible republicans don't take control independents will conclude that republican fanaticism caused the default. they will conclude that republicans are not fit to govern and they will be right, end quote. so are republicans giving too much weight to the tea party caucus right now? what do you think? >> i don't think so. if you paid attention, i know you did and jamal did to the elections last year, we saw a lot of democrats campaigning not to raise taxes in a time of recession. that that would be a jobs killer. an economic mess for us. and we want to listen to those democrats who push that in november, certainly a lot of republicans did as well or republican leadership pushes that. that's good and proper. we want to remember that the bush tax cuts as they're called really have become democrat tax cuts. they were signed into law and passed by a democrat house and senate. >> as we look at this very important chapter this debate over the debt, august 2nd has been pu
. >> this week david brooks which i'm sure you're familiar with this article in "the new york times" saying quote, if responsible republicans don't take control independents will conclude that republican fanaticism caused the default. they will conclude that republicans are not fit to govern and they will be right, end quote. so are republicans giving too much weight to the tea party caucus right now? what do you think? >> i don't think so. if you paid attention, i know...
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do you agree with david brooks and that conclusion? >> oh, i do. i was with him here recently at the aspen festival. bright guy, thoughtful person. but, you know, really, i know these wonderful republican colleagues and democratic colleagues. houn how could they ever get to a point where some guy is pulling out a sheet of paper that they signed when everything was roses in america and now we're headed for the bow wows and he's standing throughout shrill on the edge of the hill saying you're going to be cremated ? the worst thing that will happen to you of course is you will not be re-elected. by god, if that's the talisman of your whole life, should have quit long ago. >> as always, alan simpson, truth teller and everybody does love you and should read your report. i'm supporting you for president. thanks for joining us. >> king. if i could be king. >> we'll give you that, too. he is a national treasure, indeed. alan simpson. up ahead, the next development in the casey anthony trial. at bayer, we've been relieving pain for over 100 years. and today
do you agree with david brooks and that conclusion? >> oh, i do. i was with him here recently at the aspen festival. bright guy, thoughtful person. but, you know, really, i know these wonderful republican colleagues and democratic colleagues. houn how could they ever get to a point where some guy is pulling out a sheet of paper that they signed when everything was roses in america and now we're headed for the bow wows and he's standing throughout shrill on the edge of the hill saying...
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he hired rebekah brooks, was a loyal confidant of his. everyone knows that media tabloids is his first love. >> anything about his response, he said this is the most humble day of my career. do you buy it? >> i don't doubt that it is probably the most humble day of his career. he's had plenty of humble days, having sold myspace for a fraction of what they bought it for. it's been a rough patch for him. i do believe that he's sincere about feeling badly for what's happened. but at the same time, i think there probably was this culture at the news international tabloids wr this is probably overlooked and not necessarily encouraged. >> clearly at 80 years of age, still working 10 to 12-hour work days. he loves his job. he conceded in today's hearing he spends a lot of time with "the wall street journal" than the uk papers. the headline is earth to murdoch, just sell the newspapers. what do you mean by that? >> it's a very small percentage of the company's overall profits. news corp. is more famous before this scandal for owning fox which "am
he hired rebekah brooks, was a loyal confidant of his. everyone knows that media tabloids is his first love. >> anything about his response, he said this is the most humble day of my career. do you buy it? >> i don't doubt that it is probably the most humble day of his career. he's had plenty of humble days, having sold myspace for a fraction of what they bought it for. it's been a rough patch for him. i do believe that he's sincere about feeling badly for what's happened. but at...
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. >> what david brooks wrote last week, interestingly, and certainly some republicans took note of it because david brooks is well known and well respected in republican and democratic circles as a "new york times" writer. he said if the republican party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. it is being offered the deal of the century, trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases. and there have been bipartisan and nonpartisan groups that have suggested it would be $400 billion of loophole closures that could be affected without calling it in effect a tax increase. >> well, our budget which was passed last april, proposed to close all these loopholes in exchange for tax reform. so we were the first to call for closing all these corporate tax loopholes to lower our tax rates, to create jobs. so nobody should hold a candle to us on wanting to close loopholes. we have been saying that forever. it's just all the spending cuts, we have yet to see specifics. we have yet to see commitments to do this.
. >> what david brooks wrote last week, interestingly, and certainly some republicans took note of it because david brooks is well known and well respected in republican and democratic circles as a "new york times" writer. he said if the republican party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. it is being offered the deal of the century, trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases. and...